Note to DJ's and Program Directors: Here's exciting programming from
Polydor Records... the
RITCHIE BLACKMORE "RAINBOW RADIO SPECIAL!"
Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow is a totally new horizon in music, one of the most
eagerly anticipated releases for rock fans everywhere. This is the superb musician
who was one of the founders and driving forces of the rock supergroup Deep Purple...
and with this album, be's off on a new musical direction of his own... a completely
new spectrum.
For those who wondered how he could top a triumphant career with Deep Purple,
which had already taken him to the elite ranks of international stardom, with
14 million albums sold worldwide, in one year - to explain it, here is the answer....
RAINBOW.
This RAINBOW RADIO SPECIAL is a "Self Portrait" of Ritchie and Ronnie James Dio,
the dynamic young vocalist whose work with the band, Elf, was so critically aclaimed,
and who is now an integral part of the new group, along with drummer Cozy Powell.
It's a revealing audiobiography in which you share their thoughts and feelings,
and wit... and during which they play four tracks from the new "Rainbow" album,
including three of their own songs.
It's a completely flexible program, and can be used in segments or entirely,
as your program time permits. Commercials may be inserted at the end of each
segment, or news, etc, and pertinent ad lib remarks should be used to lead
back in.
Please note: "Rainbow" consists of Ritchie Blackmore, guitar; Ronnie James
Dio, vocals, Cozy Powell, drums; Tony Carey, keyboards; Jimmy bain, bass. Please
make
your audience aware that these are the members of the group, since this interview
was recorded before either Carey or Cozy Powell joined
Blackmore's Rainbow.
The rapport that exists musically between Ritchie and Ronnie is also here in
their witty and sometimes outrageous rap... and shows the chemistry and warmth
between them... two very talented guys who are part of a great group, RAINBOW.
You'll enjoy this special, the talk as well as the music!
RB: Hello everybody, I'm Ritchie Blackmore, playing guitar for
Rainbow.
RJD: Hello everybody, I'm Ronnie James Dio, singing for the
same band, Rainbow.
RB:
The band originated, we frequent a club in Los Angeles called Rainbow,
it's a nightclub where you can have a keg of beer and a night of wickedness
at
the first
order. We got drunk one night and said let's have a band called Rainbow,
so this is how it started. And then onwards I, me, myself happen to talk
to Ronnie
James
Dio and say "do you want to record a particular track?". In the beginning we
didn't
have a LP in mind, it was just a single at first and this was "Black Sheep Of
The Family" which a lot
of people have said since: "you recorded that because you are the black sheep
of the family with Deep
Purple". I never really thought of it that way but since they've mentioned it
I suppose I was. Then onwards I ask Ronnie and he said he'ld do the track. It
turned out so well that we needed a b-side. We put the b-side down which turned
out to be much better than the a-side, we thought: well, maybe we should do a
LP about the whole thing. So we did the LP and it turned out so well, I was really
excited
about the whole thing so I contacted these hooligans I said: "Ronnie James Dio
let's form a band". We got the band together and it's now on the road. Since
I left Deep Purple, I left Deep Purple about 5 months ago after their last
European tour, we were indulging in mad orgies and drinking ourselves under
the table
in general, which is what most people do in the Rainbow but it's a very nice
club.
RJD: We were different organisations at the time, I was in a
band called Elf, Ritchie was with
Deep... eh Deep someone, eh... now careful, it's a colour.....
RB: Deep Pimple.
RJD: That's it Deep Pimple. Ritchie decided to take a bit of
a holiday from everything, from
life, he needed someone to worry with him (Ritchie laughs in the background),
so I started to worry with him. What happened is we splitted from
our bands to get together and formed Rainbow,
from the bar with the same name.
RB: Ronnie to me, he has an incredible voice, he's very good
at improvising. I found this was lacking in my former bands. I
met Ronnie
about three years
ago and Elf was the name of the band he was in. He used to be support
Deep Purple
on most of the gigs because....
RJD: We do know all why, because you can't support yourselves.
RB: Right, he's very right. They were a very, very good
band and we liked them very much plus being very nice people.
But I've
changed my mind
about that
as I found out they're right nasty. I took about three years
before Ronnie
and I spoke to each other because we use to give each other
the eye. And he said
to me one night "what are your doing?". And I told him I'm off to the Rainbow
so he said "ok, I'll join you down there" and that's how we got together.
RJD: He has the talent and think it was quite humerous,
a big joke. It was never funny to me at all, I wanted to
make sure everybody
to know
it was
very serious between us.
RB: We're good friends right now.
RJD: So I'm now best friends with Ritchie Blackmore.
Let's get to some music: first track is
a song called "Man on the silver mountain", it's written by Ritchie and I.
I've Ritchie explained
this but you completely got lost so I'll do this for you (Ritchie laughs).
It's a kind of semi-religious song, in the respect that
the man on the silver mountain is the kinda God figure
that everyone
is crying
out to,
save them,
help them and give them money, chicks and booze, and
curious from diseases and all
that. And they just basicly cry out to him, the man on
the silver
mountain to come down, make them holy and rewarding.
That's the man on the silver
mountain.
RB: This particular LP was made in München, in Germany, and we
recorded there because of the nightlife basicly, my favorite country is Deutschland
and
it always will be. I've spent several years there and that's why I particulary
like the studio. It's a very good studio too.
RB: When we formed Rainbow, Ronnie and I had
the same interest in music which were basicly medieval
classical
roots
such as Bach,
actually the whole
LP was inspired by Johan, who was there some of the
time. And a lot of the progressions we used were
classical progressions. That's
not
as drastic
as
it sounds, they're
still rock progressions because I believe that Bach
even
in
the 16th century
was still playing in a way that was very relative
to the way that people are playing today. Which is very
rhythmical
And
we both
had the same
interest so
we tried to incorporate these medieval parts... We
used a lot of modes instead of scales. And modes
meant we
used weird
chords.
But we found
out it worked
with a rock backing. We achieved this on about four
tracks. And I'm very excited about
it because I never done this before and it turned
out it very well.
RJD: Rainbow has it's greatest influence from
Ritchie (Ritchie yell
and applaud). The greatest influence will be
myself proberly (laughs), our greatest influence
will be definitely
Ritchie.
Ritchie's guitarplaying,
sense
of rhythm, all of the qualities that I always have
missed in working with a musician of Ritchie's
caliber. What
we eventually
blended
together was
the writing of
Ritchie and myself. My singing was the way he writes,
the way he plays guitar, his possible playing guitar
after the way I sing (Ritchie laughs) and
ofcourse his long eyelashes. I don't know if we
could say consciously
we
took anyone's
influence.
I can only sing, tell you who I enjoy listening
to.
Not
only listening to but who I am unconsciously influenced
by the Beatles certainly. Any musician will be
forced to say
that they're
at least
be a bit influenced
by the Beatles. The effects, the techniques they
used something so inovated that now we say why
didn't we
think of that.
We didn't think
of it, they
did so that
was proberly one of my biggest influences. Being
a vocalist I only can talk about vocal influences,
I
assume Ritchie
will carry
on
about his
instrumental influences,
I try to listen to a wide range of vocalists. Steal
whatever I can from them,
whatever I'm capable of
stealing and incorporated it in my own style.
RB: Why I am so interested in medieval stuff
is because my hobby is phsycic research and I
believe in
supernatural and reincarnation.
It creeps
in and I
think that I was around in the maybe 16th century,
I'm so,
in fact I'm positive I was around (Ronnie in the background "You still are",
Ritchie laughs). As far as influences go
I was raised with Les Paul, he was the first
guitarist.
He came round
in about
1952 with
Les Paul
Marry Ford
and
he was the first guitarist playing with multi-echo
and synchronise guitars, speeding up guitars.
I think
he
was the first guitarist
upon the scene
electric guitar
talk. I know there was Charley Christian who
was the first electric guitarist. There's also
Django
Rheinhard,
who
taking taxi cabs
from Paris to Lyon
which cost him
about £ 500 and he was often hiding in woods as a gypsy. I knew him very
well, but my main influences from after Les Paul was the Beatles, again. Paul
McCartney is a genious and up to this day I like Jethro Tull very much. You
don't agree on the sound, you just let it happen. If it happens, it happens,
if it
doesn't, it doesn't. It happened and we were very excited about the sound we
had. It's nothing drastically different from anything else but it has that
flavour of the medieval touch which we wanted from the beginning so I'm very
happy about
that.
RJD: A perfect example of that is a track
called "Catch the Rainbow",
it's lyrically medieval in that, eh... it's concerning a stableboy who, eh lucky
guy, make a way to the lady of the courts, kinda upperclass. She sneakes off
to his little stable and sleeps on his strawbed every night and they think it's
all gonna work but as we rudely find out it never does. And they kinda go there
own
way. This is the track that I think both Ritchie and I are very proud of. "Catch
the Rainbow" is our idea of the futility of man versus woman I think, quite
a representative track from what we're try
to give you.
RB: There are five guys in the group,
organ, bass, guitar, drums, what do you do
Ron?
RJD: Drums, organ, guitar and ocassionally
I produce every album by Rainbow.
RB: Can we have somebody who sings?
RJD: Not at the moment.
RB: What do you do? You sang on
the LP, didn't you?
RJD:
No I didn't, that was Robert.
RB: Robert?
RJD: Yes!
RB: No, Ronnie James Dio
on vocals. We have Mickey
Lee Soule on keyboards,
who doesn't
know
what he's doing.
That's
a joke,
which is
not very funny.
On drums we have Gary Driscoll,
he
used to be a ballet dancer,
which has nothing
to do with what I'm talking
about.
RJD: What about bassguitar?
RB: On bassguitar we
have a number of people
at the moment
(laughs),
his name is Jimmy Bain.
Jimmy Bain who's a Scotsman
on
bass. There
was also some
guests that came
in now and
again. There
was the
vicar, we
used to go
round blessing
people. We're very religious.
And there was wasp buzzing
around, there was
the eagle,
the
shark.
And also there
was Shashana
on vocals, Hughie
McDowell
came
in when he wanted a drink
and he
used to play cello.
RJD: I just want
to mention how difficult
it
is to get people
who'll play in other
bands together, to
match personalities,
to
match musical
taste, to be
sure that everyone
is happy. Right that's
it, Ritchie is, if
this was on video you'ld see
it, there was
the
old fist
in
the palm
because that's the
way to
do it. A whip across
the back
and no other way. We
found that kinda
working
socially first makes
it feel easier going
in the
studio.
If you like
each
other you can
play good likeable
music (Ritchie laughs),
if you don't like each
other you
play
very bad
music. I guess
there
are some people
play
good music
who didn't
like
each other,
but anyway. There wasn't
really much of birth
pain going on.
It's very
easy to
be
established first,
when you've got a Ritchie
Blackmore on
your side
and especially
when
you have a Ronnie
James Dio
on your
side, all
the other
musicians....
RB: Picks his
nose by the way,
tell them that.
RJD: I won't
tell them.
RB: Warn
them.
RJD: But
I wanna mention
the
other people
in the band,
Gary Driscoll
drummer,
Jimmy Bain
the bassplayer,
keyboardman
Mickey
Lee Soule.
It's a kinda of a
family affair
cause we
get along socially,
we
like each
others friends
and, now wait
a minute,
there's
one friend
of
Ritchie that
I can't handle
at all.
We basically
have the same
likes, the
same dislikes
which make
all of
it very easy.
We really didn't
have to worry
too much of
being
on the road
because all
we have done
so far is
the recording
the LP,
we haven't
been
on the road
touring yet
but we will
be very, very
shortly.
At
the moment
we getting
to know each
other more
from musically
as far
as rehearsals
go.
As far as
anything else
goes I'm bored
and I
don't care.
RB:
There are
very many
rockbands
in the market
today,
reverting
back to Deep Purple,
the pressure
was very
hard with Deep Purple
because they
were so big
and we had
to release
three
LP's
a year,
tour the
world. With
this band
we're trying
to be a lot
more mellow
and
we
are
contracted
to
do one LP
a year which
is
what I
wanted.
I want
to lay on
the beach
and be
lazy. I know
there's
a lot of
competition but people
know what
they like
and the
music we're
making is
something
that I like very
much. I
could have
carried on
in Deep
Purple
and sat back.
Another door,
another day
or is it
the other way around.
It's the
other
way around
but I'm very
excited
about
it because
I'm playing
music that
I
want to in
the time
that I want
to play in
as much as
I'm not pressured
anymore
as much as
I
was. This
was what I
was
try
to get away
from. A
lot of
people
say "why
did
you leave Deep Purple?". It's because there was too much pressure and I'll
never let that happen
again. Same kind of success would be nice but not the same pressure.
RJD:
Great success
without
the pressure
can certainly
be handled.
We're gonna
prove that
for sure. The
basis of this
band
was originally
to make
music,
that's
a
statement
made
by everyone,
we wanna
make
music
and we don't
care
about anything
else.
We
don't
care about the
stage
sets. And we
don't
care about how
to compete
with
anybody
else.
The purest
idea
is we wanna
make
music
we wanna
people
who listen
to it,
who
buy it,
to enjoy
it
without
all the
contrivances
going
on. We realise
that
we need
to
have
a stage
set that
can
compete
with
anyone else.
We have
to have
our
sound
system
that
can compete
with
anyone else.
We have
to have
musicians
that
can compete
with
anyone
else.
We feel we
have
all of these
but we
don't
want
to become
theater.
We would
really
like
to retain
the idea
music
first, theater
kinda
if
as a
support act to
the band,
the theatrics
will
compete
enough
competitive
enough
so that
we will
be
able
to play
the music.
RB:
I think
theatrics
are
very
entertaining,
if
the
music
is
bad,
or
in
our
case
the
music
is
gonna
be
terrible
(laughs),
I like
theatrics
to
a point,
especially
Jethro
Tull,
he
uses
theatrics
very
nicely,
he
is
very
musical
and
he
uses
a touch
of
theatrics
which
I think
is
very
good.
I'm
not
too
sure
about
the
Alice
Coopers
and
the
Rolling
Stones,
the
way
they
have
to
use
them
I don't
think
they
would
obtain
an
audience
if
they
didn't
get
up
to
some
Tom
Foolery
as
we
say
back
in
England,
like
as
mirrors
reflecting
the
audience
so
they
can
see
themselves.
I like
theatrics
to
a
certain
extense
but
as
long
as
it
doesn't
overshadow
the
music.
RJD:
It's
time
to
introduce
another
track,
don't
you
think.
This
song
has
no
theatrics,
no
thrills,
no
fancy
parts.
This
is
an
instrumental
song,
called "Still I'm Sad",
which
is an
old Gregorian
champ,
again
going
back
to the
medieval.
RB:
Not medieval,
13th century.
RJD:
Well, it
may be
13th century
to you
but to
me it's
mama. He's
right about
that, medieval
is not
what this
is but
it's ancient
history with
kinda coinsise
a little
bit anyway
it's a
Gregorian champ
done by
the Yardbirds
at one
point with
a kinda
new rendition.
And here's
a new
rendition of
that old
favorite.
RB:
Going back
to my
earlier child-youth
I was
abandonned at
a station,
Charing Cross
Road, at
the very
early age
of 25.
No, I
picked up
the guitar
when I
was eleven.
Started seriously
classical studies
when I
was twelve.
Carried on
classical till
I was
15. After
I was
15 my
job was
a radio
mechanic working
with aircrafts.
After a
year of
that I
realised the
guitar was
my life.
Then I
picked up
the guitar
again, because
I left
it alone
for about
a year.
Then I
started studying
seriously, playing
just rock
and roll.
An old
guitarteacher of
mine once
said to
me whatever
guitarplaying you're
gonna take
up make
sure it's
one type
of guitarplaying
so I
decided upon
to play
the rock'n'roll
guitar Maybe
because of
the glamour,
but rock'n'roll
to me
was very
demanding, very
challinging, cause
it was
very limiting
and that's
why I
took up
the rock'n'roll
guitar. So
since I
was 15
years, 16
years old
I've been
playing rock'n'roll
guitar.
RJD:
I started
my own
interest of
music by
listen to
the radio,
my parents
would turn
it on
in the
morning after
their daily
toil, getting
myself ready
for school,
hearing what
they used
to play,
it certainly
wasn't rock'n'roll,
big band
things, not
old enough
already to
know. They
use to
tape all
the radio
programs for
me Harry
James, Benny
Goodman and
people like
that. This
was in
New York,
I'm in
aid of
a New
Yorker, not
New York
City but
upstate New
York. And
from that
early influence,
just listening
to the
big band
thing. In
those days
it was
kinda boogie
music actually.
The form
of the
boogie you
hear now.
My father
one day
said to
me: "Right, how would you play an
instrument". What's that, I want to play ball, I didn't care about playing an
instrument. "Well, if you hear something you like on the radio, pick it up and
let me know". Luckily I didn't, there was no tuba piece sound at that moment,
it was Harry James, that sounds good what do you call that thing. My father,
being the brilliant musical intellect that he was said "I don't know I call someone
for you" (Ritchie laughs),
so he
did and
found out
that Harry
James played
clarinet, oh
no sorry,
even I
forgot, Harry
James was
a trumpet
player. My
father said
I pick
you up
a trumpet
tomorrow when
I'm going
to the
pawn shop.
So he
happens to
pass the
pawn shop.
RB:
Is it
relative to
pornographic?
RJD:
Yes, it's
relative to
pornographic. I
was a
very pornographic
trumpet player.
He picked
me up
a horn
and I
played it
for a
while and
that was
my early
classical training.
I played
in orchestras
with violins,
cellos, violas,
bassoons and
timpani and
all of
that instead
of guitars.
I had
many, many
formal lessons.
I was
at one
point going
to Juilliard,
had a
scholarship to
Juilliard for
playing trumpet
but in
that interum
between having
a chance
to go
to Juilliard
and doing
what I
like to
do. One
day I
heard a
band that
had trumpets.
The trumpetplayers
stand up
and sang
Hound dog.
That's what
it had,
there it
started. Hound
dog is
the thing,
i don't
care what
trumpetplayer or
whatever he
is and
I still
can remember
that first
thing hearing
that person
doing it.
No more
trumpet, I'm
gonna do
something else,
I picked
up a
guitar, learn
to play
it a
bit, not
very well
at all,
still don't
but there
was at
least a
rock'n'roll influence.
From there
my whole
life was
channeled to
volume music.
Hard inside
your stomach,
guts music
instead of
Harry James.
RJD:
The track
that most
examplifies the
medieval music
that we've
been talking
about is
a song
called "16th Century Greensleeves",
inspired
by Elvis
Presley,
written
by Judy
Garland.
RB:
Robin Hood!
RJD:
I'm sorry,
written by
Robin Hood,
but we
are taking
publishing on
whatever Robin
Hood has
been written
since then.
Anyway the
song is
our idea
of a
castle where
the black
knight lives.
The black
knight ofcourse
being Ritchie
and the
black knight
periodically comes
out of
his castle
and captures
a young
peasant maiden
from the
village where
they're all
living in
squalid, brings
her back
to the
castle. Very,
very rude.
And he
does this
over the
period of
15 or
20 years,
I haven't
sorted that
out yet.
Finally one
day the
peasants say: "Wrong,
you're
taking
the wrong
chick.
This
is the
chick
that's
going
to save
the village.
We're
going
to take
revolt
against
you."
RB:
Why is
she gonna
save the
village?
RJD:
She's going
to save
the village
because she
has eleven
fingers on
one hand
(Ritchie
laughs).
No, this
obviously becomes
the portent
of fast
capability so
in order
to save
those eleven
fingers on
one hand,
by the
way she
doesn't have
a left
hand, eleven
on her
right hand
and she
only has
nine toes.
Which means
that it
all comes
back to
have only
twenty digitals
(Ritchie
laughs again).
So in
that case
seeming that
she's all
that fold
up. They
decide to
revolt against
the black
knight and
they cut
down the
castle, eh...
they cut
down the
drawbridge (Ritchie keeps
laughing).
They would
cut down
the castle
if they
had a
sharp knife.
Actually they
attack the
castle or
as they
say in
Hounslow the
caastle (posh accent).
They attack
the castle
and they
cut down
the drawbridge
and they
hang up
the black
knight right
by his
(Ritchie laughs)...
left thumb.
And then
they put
him in
the fire
and they
take over
the village.
The best
what they
kinda comes
down to
it. We
had quite
a change
from the
16th century
to now,
the 20th
century. We're
all very,
very free
people. Able
to do
with our
money what
we wanna
do and
with our
lifes what
we wanna
do and
if you
believe that
anyone out
there you
are... wrong,
wrong and
wrong (Ritchie
laughs loud).
The point
is that
this is
a song
called "16th Century Greensleeves",
and the
music
will
convate
to you
that
medieval
was our
intent
and our
concept
and we
hope
that
it's
a new
kind
of rock'n'roll
music
anyway.
It's
something
that
we like
a lot.
RB:
It's only
400 years
old